guns and laws

[Spoon boy]

Beware of the curtain twitches. [img]graemlins/wonder.gif[/img]

Ever thought of replacing the guns with walkie talkies.

[emjen]

you have to let the police know you're going to film!

Three of us wore ski-masks and BANANAS instead of guns and got a fucking arrestation squad on our asses!!!

[Kev Owens]

Originally posted by Littlerich: Best way of doing it is to flood the local area with leaflets or flyers explaining what's going on before you do the shoot (Ha! A pun in itself!)... that way, people seeing a bunch of people running about know it's a film being made, and won't call the cops!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">[img]eek.gif[/img] I don't think so. Come on guys... get serious here! Okay, you're not a professional, but when it comes to things like this you've GOT to take some serious responsibility- or else you will (deservedly) end up in trouble. This is made even more important with the world the way it is today.

First of all a film specific question- how many of you have ever made a 'film' without a gun in it? Just out of interest.

Couldn't your gun scene be filmed out of the way of the public? If not, then good luck, but I think that artistic expression must come second to your safety and scaring the shit out of and panicking unknowing members of the public.

[Tard]

Ya ever get the feeling Kev is against the NRA?

"Get 'cher stinkin' paws off me, you damn dirty apes!"

[Littlerich]

Originally posted by Kev Owens:

First of all a film specific question- how many of you have ever made a 'film' without a gun in it?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I have... Made quite a few!
My list includes:

Attack of the killer teddies (1+2) (OK... I used a Tripod as a laser...)
Living on the Outside,
Dead Stoned (in pre-production now),
The Chase,

the only one I used a gun for was "The Shoot", which I shot behind my house, with no probs!

[Kev Owens]

Originally posted by Littlerich: the only one I used a gun for was "The Shoot", which I shot behind my house, with no probs!

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">So then how exactly does that qualify you to give advice like this:

Best way of doing it is to flood the local area with leaflets or flyers explaining what's going on before you do the shoot

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">?

And in reply to Reved's comment:

Ya ever get the feeling Kev is against the NRA?

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">The NRA concerns an American civil right, therefore I don't have strong opinions on the subject since I live in the UK. However, it is my belief that the NRA mainly stands for the right to bear arms for protection purposes- is that correct? If so do you think they'd condone anything I've argued against so far?

Sorry to get so serious, but I think some people need a wake-up call and you're trying to piss on my chips.

[thelaughingduck2001]

Yeah, why don't you tell the police you're going to film, then hold the place up for real-Then, when the people complain, the Police iwll just shrug it off "Nah, they've already told us"

That wouldn't work mind, but, it's worth a shot.

Wait-THAT'S how you finance a film.

[Tard]

The person who asked the original question lives in the US, as do most of the people who have commented in this thread.

If using some common sense (like notifying local establishments of your plans several days in advance, to perhaps get cooperation and/or 'closed-store' access (product placement opportunities)), it could become a really interesting film. BUT: I don't know what '8mm bandit' had in mind for his production, as he didn't specify any plans or scenes, but would NOT recommend using fake firearms around the public. Hopefully, it'll be an indoor closed-set, at least NOT running down a sidewalk full of clueless metropolitan pedestrians with a pistol in hand! (It might work in a "suicide-by-cop" situation, or if you wish to see who's going to step-up & become the 'hero' of the crowd).

'8mm Bandit' needs to give us some idea of the scenes he wishes to produce which include firearms. In this case, comments from somebody who lives in a country with such restrictive laws against firearm ownership are unneeded. Kev lives under different laws than the US readers of this board, which just confuses the original question (which, I'll admit, 8mm Bandit didn't ask in a very clear fashion to begin with).

[JayX_swm]

Originally posted by Kev Owens:
</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by JayX_SWM: thanks to the idiots who make up UK law, it seems that blank firing weapons are now also illegal, so another good way of having realistic guns on camera has been removed.

<font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Yeah, why can't they understand that public safety and confidence at a time of constant terror alerts and moral panic isn't as important as a bunch of amateur film-makers with digital camcorders running around the streets with fake but realistic weapons so they can have a realistic gun in their film?????</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">there's a massive difference between being allowed to own something and waving it around in public. you've never been allowed to wave ANY replica gun in public in the uk, and nobody's complained. i own an air pistol and a bb gun which both sit in my draw, and have only been used on my property. sitting beside it i think i should have the right to place a blank firer. i don't think you should be allowed to have it in public, i never said or incinuated that.

[windowslaws]

gunz r kool!